Sunday, April 9, 2017

Russell Westbrook has 50 points, buzzer-beater in record 42nd triple-double



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Today Russell Westbrook had a record breaking Triple double breaking Oscar Robertson's 41 triple doubles in a season. Not only that he also did it capping other records such as most Triple doubles with 50 plus points as well as most triple doubles with 40 plus points. However, people believe that with a wider variety of player capabilities, capping triple doubles is easier than it was for Robertson. Who had to compete with Bill Russel and Wilt Chamberlain. As well as there not being many 3 point shooters back in the day. Unlike today where every team has at least one good shooter. In addition to fouling, where back then many plays were hard to pull off because fouls were not called or were a lot harder. Unlike today where we have the hand check and Flagrant fouls causing players to be a lot more careful on the court. Because of this many people are arguing about reapplying hand checking to make defense more effective. This can be tied to Bush's election in 2000 where he received Fewer popular votes but won the electoral college votes. Because of that they questioned whether they should continue the use of the electoral college. Do you believe that hand checking should be reimplemented into the NBA? Do you believe the electoral college should be used to elect the president of the US? Were Westbrook's Triple doubles more easily obtained than Robertson's?

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  1. I believe that Russell Westbrook's triple double record was pretty much the same difficulty as Oscar Robinson's 41 triple doubles. Considering it took more than 50 years for someone to break that record, along with the fact that today's NBA is much more athletic and higher scoring/faster pace than the NBA in the 1960s, it can be compared to the same difficulty. Additionally, I believe that the electoral college system should be reformed, not scraped, because with out it, the small states would not have a voice and the candidates would only campaign in big cities, such as New York and Los Angeles. Thus, the electoral system acts as a good check against this, but clearly it is broken and needs to be reformed.

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  2. I think that any critic who says that Westbrook's triple-doubles were easy is completely wrong and ignorant. First of all, like Justin previously said, the fact that it took mover 50 years to break the record shows how difficult of a task it is. Second of all, if you watch the Thunder play, it's pretty obvious that they wouldn't be anywhere near the playoff spots without Russell. I mean seriously, other than him and maybe Oladipo, Kanter, and Gibson, that team is just about average. When you watch them play you can see how many times Westbrook sets up another player with a wide open shot and then they airball it. This shows how hard it is, especially playing on an average team. No offense to Brandon, the author, but I see little connection between Westbrook and his triple doubles and the electoral college so I don't want to make this political. Westbrook MVP 2017.

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  3. While I understand Theo and Justin's point of view, it is simply incorrect to conclude that the level of difficulty of Westbrook's record was as high as Robinson's. Here's why... Many point to Westbrook's subpar teammates as making his 42 triple doubles that much more impressive... I would argue the contrary. As Theo said, almost every single posession runs through Westbrook, and he takes far more shots than in any previous season. In fact, when KD was around, Russ wasn't even in the MVP conversation, and was considered by many to be the "second best player" on the team despite his notorious ball-hogging. His taking the Thunder to the playoffs is impressive, but there's no way he could be having the season he's having with another superstar on the team. On the other hand, Oscar Robinson's 41 triple double's were a product of his excellence, and he still managed to notch one after another after another despite the presence of one of the greatest players in NBA history, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who was a dominant presence on the court and took a large portion of Robinson's ball-time with his superstardom. Not to mention, the Bucks were a championship team, and had depth beyond their two-man powerhouse, and the fact that Robinson was able to have as much of an impact as he did while still being surrounded by superstars puts his triple doubles on another level than Westbrook's. I can guarantee you that if Russ couldn't pull any record triple doubles in KD's presence, there is absolutely NO WAY he would've notched 42 3-2s with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's Bucks. Maybe next year Russ...
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    1. Russell Westbrook, in my opinion, is one of the best athletes to ever bless the NBA or the world. I know you're not supposed to compare different eras, but if you put Russell into the NBA in the 60s, he'd be giving fools some WORK and there's no doubt about that. And, although it may be unlikely, we don't know yet if Westbrook won't win a championship this year. Anything could happen, especially when you have the most vicious and energetic player on the court. If he wants it, he'll try his best to get it. Also, how many of Robertson's assists do you think were for Kareem? My guess is most of them. So having a superstar does help. It's just that when KD was on the Thunder, getting triple-doubles wasn't Westbrook's role on the court.

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    2. Just would like to put out Kareem played in the 1970s and 1980s, while Oscar Robertson played in the 1960s and it was 1961 he had 41 triple doubles. Also, Daniel, why did it take more than 50 years for someone to break the triple double record?

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    3. Personally, I feel it was some degree of circumstance and an equal amount of skill that propelled Westbrook to break Robinson's record. Being, as Daniel said, in a sub-par team that lost their star player, Westbrook's role in the team HAS changed, and providing those triple doubles in a team sure is a plus. However, the question is, would Westbrook still provide in a team like Robinson's, and in his era, provided the game has come a long way since then.

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  4. I agree with Theo that anyone who critics Westbrook's triple-double is wrong. The fact that it took that much time and effort in order for someone to beat the record shows that it must've been a really difficult task. Even though I do not believe that Westbrook cheated in any way, hand checking both should or shouldn't be reimplemented. It shouldn't matter what the rules are if he broke the record out of skill.

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  5. Russell Westbrook's record was more difficult to obtain than Oscar Robertson's in my opinion. Westbrook has obtained this record while playing ten less minutes than Oscar did in his respective year. Although, Russ gets to play with three pointer. As any basketball fan knows, points are the easiest aspect to gain in the triple double feat. Where the challenge comes in, is the rebounds and assists (depending on the position of the player).

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  6. I also believe that it is wrong to criticize Russell Westbrook for his achievement. To be honest, I don't really understand why there are criticisms over this. Technology is obviously more advanced nowadays compared to when Robertson broke the 41 triple doubles record. If someone were to accuse Westbrook of committing an illegal play, they can check it easily with the recordings.

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  7. I do not think the votes for MVP will correlate with those of the 2000 Election because in my opinion Westbrook will receive the honor. Although Harden will give him a run for his money, Westbrook's performance this season has simply been phenomenal, not to mention historic. Oscar Robertson played during a time when the game was much more aggressive, but the physical demand has not been reduced to go out every night and put on a show.

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    1. While you make a point about westbrooks great season will give him the honor. You cannot overlook the fact that Harden has lead his team to more victories and has put up monstrous numbers so i wouldnt just cut him out of the race just yet

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  8. I almost know nothing about professional basketball, but what I heard was enough to convince me that Westbrook’ triple double is now historic and that there might not be someone out there right now or in the future that will be able to break such record. I like how you were able to make a connection of this event with politics, especially the presidential elections. I feel that the electoral college should be used to elect the president of the US because it is more easy and accurate rather than taking the popular vote in consideration. This system has been used for decades and I do not thing people in government are willing to change this anytime soon.

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  9. Russell Westbrook has unarguably created new historic barriers for other future basketball players to over come. I feel that due to his efficiency, record breaking stats, and extreme athleticism, he should be the MVP of the year. According to the NBA's website, a well known source of statistical information and sports news, I noticed that Westbrook has the popular vote for being crowned MVP due to his astonishing achievements. I think that Westbrook deserves it since he has single handedly carried the Thunder team on his back all season long, while facing the pressure of losing the team's ex star player, Kevin Durant. I understand that Oscar Robertson played in a different era while holding the triple-double record, so some may argue that today it is easier, however I disagree. I feel that today's national basketball association requires an immense amount of skill and different athleticism. The game has changed and has not gotten any easier.

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  10. In response to your question about hand checking being re-implemented in the NBA, I do believe it should. It would bring back a certain level of physicality we saw in the Magic/Bird era and even the Jordan era that today's NBA lacks. Russell Westbrook deserves respect and praise for being able to break Robertson's Triple Double record, but rather than question his teammates and opponents versus Robertson's in his own era, I'd question the nature of the NBA itself. With the level of intensity on defense today being far less than that of Robertson's era, teams are kind of helpless to stop players like Westbrook that are superiorly athletic. So yes, I'd say Westbrook's triple doubles were more easily obtained. However, there is no question that he deserves the MVP award.

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